In search of French knickers

My friend M and I were discussing fashion the other week and we both had a question - whatever happened to French knickers?

blog imageYou know - proper French knickers. The type that are loose and flowing around your thigh, lace-trimmed and preferably made of silk. Neither of us has seen hide nor hair of them for over 10 years, and we are both, we discovered, hanging onto our last threadbare pair.

What has the fashion industry got against French knickers? Why is no-one making them anymore? They seem to have been replaced by the ubiquitious and very stretchy boyshort, which isn't the same thing at all.

I loved French knickers. They were incredibly comfortable, sexy as anything, you could get lovely details like lace edging and inserts, and blokes certainly didn't mind them for their ease of access. French knickers allowed air to get to your nether regions and also had the handy property of making pretty much anyone's bum look good. No cling, you see - lots of flounce around your cellulity bits.

I mostly wore them in camiknicker form for a sleeker line rather than wearing a separate camisole. The best type were almost like a little minidress with princess seams and nothing was more sensual under, say, a loose silk/angora knit (something else which is no longer with us). Don't recall anyone minding having to undo those tiny buttons either...

blog imageblog imageThere are plenty of people purporting still to sell French knickers, but as far as I can tell, they're telling porkies. I had a quick search online just now and found these scarlet items at La Senza. Well, I don't know quite what you'd call them - baby boyshorts maybe - but French knickers they certainly aren't. Nor are these white bits of nothing (briefs, dear) from Fuzion Lingerie. French knickers were loose - that was the whole bloody point of them.

Perhaps it's a problem of perception. Wikipedia tells me "The term is predominantly used in the UK to describe a type of underwear worn from the hip". Well no it isn't. Who writes this crap? I never wore my French knickers on my hips - maybe that's the problem. In the era of the low waist and the sleek fit, French knickers simply don't fit the market. Maybe the return to volume will have a hidden benefit for us lingerie lovers.

Strangely enough, the first proper-looking French knickers I could find while searching online were clearly photographed on a man. Something is clearly going on here, because searching for 'camiknickers' online also takes you down some strange crossdressing S&M highways.

Is there something I don't know about myself?

Maybe I'm in drag after all....

(BTW: you can get at least one proper cami at http://www.bouf.com/buy/product/793/1, a few designs of teddy in silk at www.pure-silk-lingerie.com, and a wider range of the bog-standard polyester type, such as the black ones above, at www.satinandspice.co.uk)

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Nicola
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re: In search of French knickers
Reply #6 on : Mon March 17, 2008, 09:14:17
It was exactly the same fruitless search for proper French knickers that lead me to making, and then selling, my own. As you say, the only ones on the market are strangely on the hip, scimpy as can be and just not flattering.

Proper French knickers do wonders for your bum whilst still being super sexy.

If you don't mind a bit of self-promotion my website is www.sophistikitten.net
Dianne
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re: In search of French knickers
Reply #5 on : Tue March 18, 2008, 10:47:56
I saw some in the window of Calvin Klein when I was in Toronto last week. I stopped and commented about them to my husband because I had read your previous article about them.
I looked up on the website and of course can't find them there but was wondering at the time if CK is trying to revive them. Only time will tell I suppose.
Elizabeth
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re: In search of French knickers
Reply #4 on : Thu March 20, 2008, 05:28:41
There's a couple of French knickers at Figleaves:

http://www.figleaves.com/uk/product.asp?product_id=MC-E12-462A&mci=&size=&colour=&image=r488295-p488358-front

http://www.figleaves.com/uk/product.asp?product_id=LL-15112&mci=&size=&colour=&image=r501348-p566594-style

http://www.figleaves.com/uk/product.asp?product_id=PM-2201&mci=&size=&colour=&image=r501493-p501518-front#

http://www.figleaves.com/uk/product.asp?product_id=PM-2201&mci=&size=&colour=&image=r501493-p501513-front
boudica
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re: In search of French knickers
Reply #3 on : Mon April 28, 2008, 17:45:41
You really have to go to the "vintage" websites to find a good pair. I would recommend WhatKatieDid.com. Kiss me Deadly also sell them through online suppliers & http://www.sophistikitten.net/lingerie.htm do them too, although for a more modern pair I wonder if M&S still do them?
Lynne
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re: In search of French knickers
Reply #2 on : Sat May 24, 2008, 06:08:01
Hi
Very many thanks for the mention of our website http://pure-silk-lingerie.com.

We have been manufacturing ladies classic pure silk lingerie for almost 30 years and fashions have changed a lot over the past three decades.

We do still have several styles of what I would call "real" French Knickers and very healthy sales in teddy/camiknickers. It seems we are one of the few remaining classic French lingerie manufacturers left and it's wonderful that you are helping to promote our products.

Love the article.
Philippa
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re: In search of French knickers
Reply #1 on : Thu October 02, 2008, 16:32:03
For me, the best era for lingerie was the '80s.
French knickers and teddies were available everywhere. Sexy, sensual, comfortable and flattering. My boyfriend at the time loved to see me in them, and bought loads for me.
Then they just disappeared from the shops. It's about time we had a serious revival.